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I am writing regarding animal agriculture. Very little has been said by UNFAO regarding animal welfare in #Food.
If the people in charge of UNFAO and OIE really saw what went on in the world, perhaps they would speak to governments about it much more. In the opening statement for the SDGs it does say all animals are sentient and all animals deserve protection. However not much more has been said since especially by FAO.
Why do animal rights organisations and activists always have to send petitions to government's on the horrible issues like boiling alive, dismembering alive, steaming alive, live export where animals die from heat, dairy calves freezing to death, force feeding? Governments should have been humane and banned these things decades ago. None of these animal production methods are green or have anything to do with the OIE Terrestrial Code or EU 5 Freedoms. The animal rights organisations send in thousands of letters to governments for help. But the governments ignore it time and time again. In the EU they have the 5 Freedoms, yet ducks and geese are force fed, using an ancient Egypt method that cause their back sides to split open and the torture goes on for weeks and octopus are cooked alive. The governments don't care about animal welfare, if they did they would pay attention to the petitions sent in. But they ignore them. It would help if the UNFAO and the OIE were much more vocal about the atrocities that occur. And the UNFAO had a proper pact that governments signed up to on animal welfare. Not just in food. But animals are used everywhere, fashion, medicine, sports, work. FAO should start it though.
The UN has forgotten to talk about sentient beings in the SDGs. Governments don't care. As FAODG says, Food System Transformation is required, especially with animal production(torture) yet dogs and cats are routinely boiled alive in China for food, using the traditional method by workers who are left behind using 2000 year old live processing.
Here is an idea:
https://sentientism.info/sentientism-in-action/sentientist-development-goals
Here are some of the issues, that the governments just ignore time and time again, In fact in USA, those that try to report on issues like live scalding and live dismemberment are considered terrorists. I hope the UNFAO carefully discuss each of these issues. And find a way to get governments to address it,. I believe the UN Animal Welfare Officer needs to take such issues to governments. Have a big meeting where they all watch the videos and agree on a pact. Otherwise there is no green agriculture. The UN will have failed on food production goals if all this continues on and on.
https://mercyforanimals.org/blog/uk-study-thousands-of-farmed-animals-scalded
https://www.kinderworld.org/videos/meat-industry/pigs-burned-alive-china/
https://animalsaustralia.org/our-work/farmed-animals/lynn-simpson-a-life-live-export-stories/
https://mercyforanimals.org/blog/sickening-new-video-reveals-calves-freezing/
I repeat, if all of this carries on, then the SDGS is a failure because animal sentience comes over many of the squares, you just don't see it.
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How can FAO and Civil Society Organizations engage better?
Consultation--
1. To date, the efforts towards SDGs have not succeeded in reducing socio-economic inequality within and between countries. How can FAO and CSOs work together to regain the momentum lost and work jointly to "leave no one behind”?
No one is more left behind then the Chinese dog meat worker using traditional live cooking methods.
Animal Rights organizations (CSOs) are the only ones that know the truth of the scale of atrocities committed
within animal agriculture/food production. The more socio-economic inequality there is in a country, the less
animal protection standards such as the OIE Terrestrial Code or The EU Five Freedoms are ever considered.
Socio-economic inequality certainly leaves tens of thousands of meat workers in Asia behind, using 2000 year old methods. For example in parts of China, agricultural animals such as calves and donkeys, are strung up at market places. Their mouths are bound, and then slices of skin, legs, rump, noses, ears, are sliced off the animal over 2/3 days while the animal is still alive. The workers say they cannot afford refrigeration and this is the way things have always been done and its the best way to serve the meat to the customer who prefer it fresh.
In the dog and cat meat trade across China/Asian regions, a common production method has been pieced together by Animal Rights advocates. Showing a 2000 year old method of slowly cooking the dogs and cats alive,
starting with soaking the animal in hot water, removing the hair, boiling the water more, and then finally
blow torching the dog/cat while still alive. The workers say this is the way it has always been done.
The boiling water also protects workers from rabies they say. The consumer also wants the traditional method,
with increased adrenalin in the meat. No one is more left behind then the Chinese dog/cat meat worker,
using these methods. Animal Rights orgs as well as the UK and USA Gov have written and sent petitions to
China on the ancient cultural torture of animals for purported health benefits yet nothing changes.How can FAO and CSOs work together to regain the momentum lost and work jointly to "leave no one behind”?By FAO actually setting up official meetings with Chinese (and other) Gov Food reps, bringing along the Animal Rights/CSO rep, and discussing the graphic evidence - photos and videos. Putting ALL the emphasis on the graphic evidence, for this is the truth. And pointing out, your food worker's methods are so ancient and the people are so left behind, that this is not sustainable food production in line with the UN Sustainable food agenda, this is in fact slow torture for ancient culture. China's PM Xi Jing ping famously said, he was waiting for the UN to tell him how to sustainably manage resources. All the while, he is oblivious that animals in China are resources who deserve the OIE Terrestrial slaughter code. Not torture. Three way meetings with FAO/Animal Rights CSO/Gov reps all focusing on the graphic material,is the only way to show them that the people are left behind.
2. FAO seeks to accelerate transformation of agri-food systems to be more efficient, inclusive, resilient and sustainable as a mean to achieve the 2030 agenda.What and how can CSOs contribute to such transformation to boost impact on the ground? Please suggest concrete actions.
While so much torture, not slaughter, occurs, food systems are not sustainable. FAO needs to take Animal Rights/CSOs pleas and cries for help seriously and properly engage with them and look at their graphic evidence. If governments took the OIE Terrestrial Code seriously, then 95% of the atrocities would not happen.
What and how can CSOs contribute to such transformation to boost impact on the ground? The CSOs can only
contribute if FAO listens very carefully, pays close attention to their graphic evidence, and then is very firm
with governments. Developing a proper official pact and covenant or code with governments. Currently many
governments ignore OIE codes/suggestions. Torture of animals for food does not just occur in some Asian/Chinese culture. Torture of food bearing animals routinely occurs in modern agricultural systems, as a means of cost cutting,saving time/money. For example in USA tens of thousands of pigs never get the chance to bleed out and die before they hit the scalding tanks, or are dismembered. To be boiled or dismembered alive is torture, not slaughter and is not in line with the OIE Terrestial Code. There is no cost margin to allow for the bleeding out, so the pig must endure live scalding, and or live dismemberment. Up to one million chickens are also scalded alive because of profit margins and the speed of the production line.
How can CSOs contribute to improving this on the ground?
First, FAO should routinely invite Animal Rights CSOs to send in details of everyday atrocities.
Second. FAO reps should pay very close attention to the details presented by CSOs e.g.
https://mercyforanimals.org/blog/slaughterhouses-boiling-animals-alive-freezing/
https://www.indy100.com/news/pigs-iowa-animal-rights-inhumane-roasted
Once FAO is aware of the details and has the graphic evidence, then a three way meeting with FAO/CSO/Gov
using the details and graphic evidence as the main focus of the meeting, asking the Gov to sign the pact.
If the government signs up to a UN compact/Pact/Terrestrial code, then this stops the torture on the ground.The FAO needs to understand that the Animal Rights CSO cannot change anything on their own without UN
FAO help. They merely collect the evidence and are rarely supported by the governments. In fact some Animal
Rights/CSOs are under arrest merely for sneaking into factories to collect graphic evidence. Some US Governments are making it a crime now for anyone to film what goes on inside. FAO/OIE Reps should be allowed to go inside as part of the 'pact'. FAO Reps should be supporting the Animal Rights reporters to show the truth. Now CSOs that want to show the truth are being called Terrorists.
http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/fbi-undercover-investigators-animal-enterprise-terrorism-act/5440/In China millions of pigs have also been burned and buried alive due to Swine Flu. This is not the humane disposal method that OIE or WHO had in mind. Only Animal Rights CSOs can gather this info for you.The only way for the OIE and FAO to stop such things on the ground is to engage with the Animal Rights/CSOs and carefully review the evidence. And then firmly speak with the governments, always using the facts - the graphic evidence as the central focus.3. Climate change threatens our ability to ensure global food security, eradicate poverty and
achieve sustainable development.What FAO and CSOs could maximize collective impact to adapt
and/or mitigate climate change?
Sustainable development/sustainable agriculture also includes, or should include a high degree of
Animal Welfare/Animal Protection. For example adhere to the OIE Terrestial code of for example the EU 5 freedoms, eg. freedom from suffering, water to drink. No consderation has yet been paid by governments, OIE, FAO to the effects of climate change on live stock.
https://animalsaustralia.org/our-work/farmed-animals/lynn-simpson-a-life-live-export-stories/
Live export vet: Animals were 'cooking from the inside'
Again, its the Animal Rights Orgs/CSOs left on their own to gather the information of the torture.
What FAO can do? Engage with the Animal Rights CSOs and ask them to send in all such evidence.
Meet with them and review their evidence. FAO/OIE - take the evidence to the governments and be firm and clear
and get them to sign the pact/code/compact.
It is not just in Live Export where animals are dying torturous deaths due to the effects of climate change.
Thousands of animals are also freezing to death for the sake of the food system.
https://mercyforanimals.org/blog/sickening-new-video-reveals-calves-freezing/
Thousands of dogs in China and South Korea are also left in cages outdoors under the boiling sun,
they suffer from heat stroke with no water.
The Animal Rights CSO's can do nothing to stop the above, until the FAO/OIE involve themselves and speak
to the governments about the issues.4. Based on your partnering experience, can you share a good example of meaningful engagement with FAO or another UN agency/development partner? Please highlight what/why it worked well in your opinion.
I was assisting my friends at World Protection For Dogs and Cats In The Meat Trade (WPDCMT). They are
Special Consultants to the UN Eco/Soc council on the dog/cat meat trade When myself and my friends at
WPDCMT learned that Mr Qu Dongyu, who worked at the Chinese Ministry of Food/Ag was also now
the Director of UNFAO, we wanted to meaningfully engage him in his FAO role, on the dog meat trade in his
own country. Using the graphic evidence showing the traditional live dog meat process, a petition to Mr Dongyu
of 5000 signatures, and a large letter writing campaign personally to Mr Dongyu, we were finally able to engage
him to speak to the Chinese Ministry of Food/Ag. They then declared they would class dogs as companion animalsnot food, that civilization had moved on, and it was not right to class dogs as food as FAO and OIE did not class themas food. It was a big step for China. Sadly nothing has changed in China and activists report dogs are still being cooked alive across huge regions. It is a start only, and FAO could do more. Please note, that the only way we were able to engage the FAO DG in this case, was by dozens of people sending him personal letters, begging him to help and the petition with 5000 signatures. This is the problem. CSOs should not have to beg people at the UNFAO to help. The only way forward is for the FAO to rally the Animal Rights CSOs and ask them what they need help with.5. At present, what are the most significant challenges CSOs face in their engagement with FAO?
What could FAO do to address some of those challenges? Please provide concrete examples.
The example I gave above is one of the biggest obstacles. Getting FAO to pay proper attention to the
atroscities and to take responsbility for fixing them. Not having to get 50 people writing begging letters, and
not having to get 5000 people to sign petitions begging the FAO to pay attention. The FAO should be engaging wtih the Animal Rights CSOs and asking them, saying, please send us in all the horrible issues, that need our assistance.There should be a dedicated person at the FAO who collects all the issues from the Animal Rights CSOs.
The FAO should say, we can speak to the governments once we have the details. Currently, the Animal Rights
CSOs are left alone with no one to help them and some governments now classing them as terrorists for filming
the atroscities. The FAO need to start looking at the Animal Rights CSOs as the ones reporting the facts,
not as raving lunatics to be ignored or brushed aside. The FAO need to start taking the facts seriously and
agree solutions with the governments who have allowed it to carry on, using pacts/codes/agreements.
If the FAO takes my suggestions seriously, eg engage directly with the Animal Rights orgs like Humane Society,
Mercy For Animals, Animals Australia, PETA, World Protection for Dogs and Cats in The Meat Trade, asking
them for graphic evidence of their most pressing issues and proof of mass atroscities, then FAO can help to
prevent such things from happening by engaging the governments. The governments see Animal Rights CSOs
as an annoyance at the very least. Terrorists at the worst. I am asking FAO to help change that as part of the
SDGs and certainly before 2030.
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The Unregulated Dog and Cat Meat Trade and The Ancient Food Processing System
There exists an unregulated dog and cat meat trade across many parts of Asia. This includes large rural regions of China, S.Korea, Cambodia, Lao and Vietnam. The World Animal Health Organization, along with the UN FAO, do not yet recognize dogs and cats as food and neither do the governments. With the trade being unregulated, it would be very helpful to rural transformation (e.g. bring it in line with the ethos of the SDGs) if the traditional dog meat production and processing methods, could be discussed at a high level and hopefully later with governments, as a way to help transform them. With it being an unregulated trade, often steeped in ancient supersition, The UN Food System Transformation, and Rural Transformation agenda, would be an ideal time to shed light on the matter.
The main concerns being that up to 20% of dogs and cats in the meat trade are subjected to an ancient and unethical processing method, which collected graphic evidence shows, is simliar across all the countries mentioned above. This includes boiling alive, blow torching alive, steaming alive, sometimes over a matter of hours. Sadly this is due to a belief that the more pain the animal suffers, the better quality the meat will be. This is not in line with humane slaughter as stated by OIE in their Terresital Code.. The rest of the dogs and cats in the meat trade who do receive a humane slaughter, sadly do not receive the basic animal welfare that the OIE and FAO advocates, for example free from fear, protected from cold/heat, safe transportation, water.
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Ali Dolloso
Different ways of defining resilience : Animal Rights groups might say a system was 'resilient' if animals always received humane treatment and slaughter e.g. the OIE Terrestrial Code, and the EU 5 Freedoms during any kind of crisis/shock (e.g. swine flu/bird flu). Other shocks include flooding, where animals are left to drown. Heat waves, where animals are left to cook alive with no water. Extreme cold, where animals are left to freeze to death (links for these issues at end). I would appreciate that FAO looked at all the links so you can understand the scale of torture.
During Swine Flu, Bird Flu, the main vulnerabilities facing food supply chain is inhumane disposal of animals. Tens of thousands of pigs and chickens are being buried alive and also burned alive, for the crime of having a virus. This is not a resilient food system. The following examples are all in China - the country of the FAO Director, who talks about green food systems, and humane practices.
https://www.ciwf.org.uk/news/2018/09/pigs-are-being-buried-alive-in-chi…
https://www.kinderworld.org/blog/the-hidden-victims-of-the-swine-fever-…
https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/an-inhumane-and-dange…
https://www.kinderworld.org/videos/meat-industry/pigs-buried-alive-sout…
What are the determinants, assets and skills that lead to resilience at different scales (household, community, national, regional)? You have to have governments who have a heart and compassion for animals. Governments who follow the OIE Terrestrial Code/EU 5 Freedoms correctly. Governments that would fine anyone for burning and burying pigs alive. Sadly governments all over the world ignore the petitions sent to them asking for better treatment of animals.
How can resilience be evaluated and/or measured at different scales (household, community, national, regional)? You need professional evaluators, independent of the governments. They should have a check list. In the case of swine flu, by law the evaluator should attend and ensure that no pigs are being buried or burned alive.
What indicators would measure that food systems are resilient across their different components (e.g. consumption, supply chains, retail and production)? In the case of Swine Flu - an indicator was. Did you burn alive or bury alive the pigs, or did you follow the OIE guidelines correctly. How many pigs were buried alive? How many pigs were burned alive. How many pigs were killed humanely according to OIE guidelines.
Which and where are the weak points in global food systems in terms of ensuring the resilience of food security and nutrition? All animal rights activists will tell you the weak point is governments who do not care. Especially in food systems with animals. China for example, millions of dogs and cats are boiled alive, turtles are boiled alive, octopus are boiled alive, new born lambs are cooked alive as their mothers give birth in ovens, monkeys are eaten alive, and the governments receive thousands of petitions on this subject, but they don't care. In USA, thousands of pigs and chickens are scalded and dismembered alive but the governments ignore petitions. They also call you a terrorist and give you 20 year sentence if you go in to try and report on animal torture. I do hope FAO speaks to governments about this. Animal rights activists are the good guys, and FAO should be helping us. I repeat - the weak point of resilience in animal agriculture are the governments, because they do not care. If they cared, then this would not be happening.
What types of shock are more relevant to food systems and which ones are more likely to affect FSN? What type of shocks have been under-researched, especially regarding their impact on FSN and food systems?
Virus shocks in live stock are under researched. You only have to look at how the animals are being discarded to know that. Heat shocks are under researched, freezing shocks are under researched. I attach evidence at end.
How might different kinds of shocks (e.g. climatic, social, financial or political) affect different regions and different aspects of the food system (e.g. production, processing or distribution)?
There are plenty of climatic shocks e.g. no water that affect live stock who are left to die with no water. There is the shock of swine flu and bird flu. There are shocks because its too cold and animals freeze to death, and because its too hot, animals bake alive.
https://mercyforanimals.org/blog/sickening-new-video-reveals-calves-freezing/
https://animalsaustralia.org/our-work/live-export/lynn-simpson-a-life-live-export-stories/
There was also the shock of Covid. Because a factory in USA had to close during Covid, the pigs were just steamed alive, to get rid of them. The person who tried to report on this was called a terrorist by the US Government.
Thousands of pigs are steamed to death at Iowa's largest pork producer | Daily Mail Online
What types of policy changes are needed to enhance the resilience of local, regional and global food systems, including with respect to global trading rules and considering inclusive and equitable employment opportunities, environmental sustainability, access to healthy diets and human rights? The governments need to be serious and should be accounting to someone at the UN, and should sign up to a PACT. They ignore the OIE Terrestrial Code. The governments need to sign up to the UN Pact and promise they will protect animals from the ROUTINE torture. I call it routine, because if you care to look at all the links and videos I send, you will see its always torture, not slaughter.
What is the role of states in building more resilient food systems, including with respect to providing infrastructure, regulatory measures, international policy coordination and policy coherence?
The governments are not following any regulations when it comes to Animal Welfare. Any regulations that are there are often ignored. This is why there is so much animal torture (its torture not slaughter). The governments do not care.
What measures are necessary to incentivize private sector strategies and investments that promote supply chain resilience? In the case of Animal Agriculture, the measures must be very strict legal laws, imprisonment for bosses who allow animal torture. Imprisonment for factory farming boss who allow factory farms to torture animals. In the case of all these animals scalded alive (being tortured) its because the private sector says there is not enough time to ensure they all receive humane slaughter. They say they cannot afford it in the production line time scales to give animals a humane slaughter. The UNFAO must address this. Millions of pigs in factory farms are not afforded the luxury of bleeding out before being scalded or dismembered, and this is in the USA. In China of course its the same. If the UNFAO and OIE allow this to continue, then everyone has failed the SDGS. The UNFAO forget that animal sentience is a big part of the SDGS.
https://mercyforanimals.org/blog/uk-study-thousands-of-farmed-animals-s…